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  1. Published on: 29/09/2021 02:45 PMReported by: editor
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    Southport journalist Martin Hovden writes: Keir Starmer’s much anticipated leader’s speech at the Labour Conference today (Wednesday) turned into a battle between him and Corbyn supporters in the packed hall.

    And sadly for him, the left-wing hecklers - many of whom are furious that he doesn’t support a £15 an hour minimum wage - clearly won by taking the spotlight off his plans for the future of the country.

    The interruptions started at the very beginning of his 90-minute (far too long) and at times clunky (i.e.boring) speech and continued throughout.

    The BBC’s political editor Laura Kuensberg revealed before Keir Starmer took to the stage in Brighton that his team had given him eight comeback lines if confronted by hecklers.

    So the most interesting part for viewers was wondering whether eight would be enough? He didn’t use all eight, but those he did were weak.

    His supporters were clearly irritated by the hecklers and fought back by giving him enthusiastic but obviously staged standing ovations every time he mentioned his humble upbringing, the NHS, slagging off Boris Johnson (to be fair he didn’t use the word scum) or being tough on crime.

    The heckling was predictable when earlier in the day a party official had urged the audience to ask themselves why they joined the Labour Party - and back came the instant response “Jeremy Corbyn”, to much applause.

    Halfway through his speech even his loyal fans were beginning to get bored, and I spotted one Labour MP looking at her watch (always a bad omen for any speaker - I’ve been there many times).

    Before his speech he declared that “winning is more important than unity”. This sent out the completely wrong message as it gives the green light to his critics in his party to carry on having a go at him and his policies.

    Hasn’t he heard of the phrase “United we stand, divided we fall”?

    The public are turned off by in-fighting. They want a strong, united party, especially if that party wants to form the next government.

    Is Keir Starmer going to be the next Prime Minister? No.

    Will Labour win the next general election? Possibly - with a new leader.

    Boris Johnson delivers his leader’s speech a week today.

    Stay tuned.

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  3. Tentill4 says:29/09/2021 06:11 PM
    After listening to Keir Starmer’s speech, if that's what you could call it, he so reminds me of John Major, soulless, boring, bland and uninspiring..

    That's it, Keir Starmer is a red John Major....

  4. Nash says:30/09/2021 09:19 AM
    Not quite the personality of children's entertainer, Bonking Boris, the clueless Con-ative leader but then can the country continue to sink lower and lower for much longer.

    A serious and sober politican is the perfect antidote to the rubber chicken man and his lack of any ideas.

  5. Tentill4 says:30/09/2021 09:22 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Nash View Post
    A serious and sober politican is the perfect antidote to the rubber chicken man and his lack of any ideas.
    So you believe the Labour party need a new leader then?

  6. Nash says:30/09/2021 11:54 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Tentill4 View Post
    So you believe the Labour party need a new leader then?
    No I believe the Tory Party need a leader, their last one was John Major. At least Major was the son of a clown rather than actually being one.

  7. jayjay2000 says:30/09/2021 12:01 PM
    Good analysis.
    Whether you support Labour/Jeremy Corbyn or not, it is clear that there was a conspiracy by the vast majority of UK media to ensure that he and his supporters could not get elected.
    His long-time constituents - of all faiths - confirmed that he was an exceptional MP who had their total support. The dignified way in which he dealt with numerous outrageously biased interviews showed that - to my surprise at least - he did actually have Prime Ministerial ability. If in doubt, go back and compare interviews with Boris Johnson.
    Instead voters were bullied into feeling that voting for Labour/JC was either an indicator of their own stupidity or else an action which showed support for religious discrimination.
    Various sitting Labour MPs - aware that their own incompetence or lack of activity would be challenged by a more responsive Labour Central Office - churned out stories which suggested that they were the ones being bullied, including Luciana Berger.
    Those of us with long memories remember how the original and popular local Labour candidate for her safe seat was mysteriously obliged to step down to allow this very well-connected non-local candidate to stand and get elected.
    Any Conservative or right-leaning Labour might do well to avoid feeling to smug about the supposed elimination of Labour members who adhere to more traditional socialist values - the values that the Labour Party was originally founded on as it happens.
    This is because if certain powers-that-be in London can successfully orchestrate the elimination of anyone who they perceive as a personal threat, then they can do it to any other politician intent on positive change for the rest of the country, including those from the Liberal and Conservative parties.
    And the fact that supposedly professional journalists knew that the vast majority of the smears were false but did not feel able to speak the truth should make all of us feel alarmed. We seem to be heading for US style politics, with two main parties with very similar policies and little possibility of change for the better.
    Yes, John Major was a decent guy (long story but I had first hand knowledge of this) who received similar treatment from much of the media. The worrying thing about the JC conspiracy is that the entire media - including the supposedly left-leaning Guardian - participated in it, which is new.

  8. Tentill4 says:30/09/2021 02:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Nash View Post
    No I believe the Tory Party need a leader, their last one was John Major. At least Major was the son of a clown rather than actually being one.
    I've been waiting for over 20 years for a Labour leader to come along, and still I wait..

  9. Nash says:01/10/2021 11:55 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Tentill4 View Post
    I've been waiting for over 20 years for a Labour leader to come along, and still I wait..
    Bet you have also been waiting for the Messiah


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